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Jerad Tinninq: hi mark
me: can you copy what we had before for Mrk?
mark fearon: hi hows it going
Jerad Tinninq: it disappeared...
me: damn
Jerad Tinninq: nothing much to catch up on
we were discussing the possibility that aim,msn email is alienating and whether that is a problem to look at
and that we need to find a clear issue that needs addressing
mark fearon: so like social boundaries changing due to technology?
Jerad Tinninq: I was just thinking about social networking.. there are a lot of sits - facebook, myspace etc - all trying to do the same thing - eliminate the alienation, but what tends to happen is people just recreate their known relations online
mark fearon: like private conversations becoming not so private as they are posted on public sites
me: indeed
mark fearon: things that you wont say to someones face can be kept and lookd at by the talked about that person
Jerad Tinninq: I do find that interesting. I also find it interesting the pictures that people will put on dating sites. Like you'll see a classmate or worker in a very revealing pose and think, dude everyone can see that.
me: bebo is a perfect example of that
Jerad Tinninq: I think how it's kind of turned everyone into amateur porn stars... like we still have a sense of shame in person, but will post half naked pictures on dating sites.
maybe that's just my friends....
mark fearon: yeah and how people take photos of themselves to try and show them in a certain way when they arnt like that at all
me: also, I was suggesting that intimacy is lost through technology; eg texting and email etc. There is a good quote somewhere saying that we understand or connect with people 90% through body language
mark fearon: i think that that is a very interesting topic
me: I have a perfect emaqil about cropping for internet dating sites
mark fearon: yeah and how no emotion is realy shown through txt
me: indeed
mark fearon: except for
me: lol
Jerad Tinninq: I was just doing that ergo project where you have to document your body - I was thinking how funny/awful that would be to use those photos for profile pics
me: oh noes
mark fearon: and how language is changin
or is that another direction
Jerad Tinninq: I'm willing to discuss anything as long as we come up with something.
me: I was thinking about that, because I use predictive texting, I hate people who text "hy u, wot u up 2?"
mark fearon: but it means you can say more
me: ok, Technology - allowing connection without intimacy
Jerad Tinninq: i'm like lisa. but i do see how annoying it is when you have to send two messages because you don't want to use "wot u up 2"?
me: indeed
mark fearon: yeah thats fair enough
i do like Technology - allowing connection without intimacy
Jerad Tinninq: so is there a problem to be solved?
me: how can we connect intimatly through technology?
or maybe we are just investigating technology and intimacy
Sent at 7:22 PM on Tuesday
mark fearon: the problem is that these technologies were created to bring us together but the way they are being used is ripping people apart
need a form of control
boundaries
Jerad Tinninq: do you think they might be changing how we define intimacy? Thinking about what people will put on bebo etc. That what we considered intimate 15 years ago is know public knowledge, so intimacy is discovery that new layer?..
If everyone knows what I look like naked, knows what I did last weekend, how much I drank, who I slept with etc., than what do my closest friends get to know that is priveleged?
me: we connect with a lot of people using technologies, a lot of people that we wouldn't be able to otherwise, but what kind of relationships are we forging? We only allow them to know or see what we want them to, not how it actually is
indeed
and true Mark
Jerad Tinninq: so is the question not how to build an open social network, but one that allows for complication of relationships, growth, etc?
Sent at 7:29 PM on Tuesday
me: we're writing a paper, does it mean that we are investigating a problem, or trying to come up with new solutions?
Jerad Tinninq: first, defining the problem
me: go mark go lol
mark fearon: find a problem then, use theories.
we dont have any theories do we
Jerad Tinninq: so what I just said would be - the problem is that social networking doesn't have hiearchies like life
me: yes
mark fearon: we should use psychology theories to do whatever we need
yeah?
Sent at 7:31 PM on Tuesday
me: yes, and I think that we probably will
I need to go back over my notes about theories
Jerad Tinninq: okay. so I think we have defined a problem that we can all think about and do a bit of reading about for tomorrow then talk about theories?
me: excellent
so we need to read about relationships with technologies, and limitations they propose etc
mark fearon: yeah and have a copy of those questions we need to answer
me: how connection is limited
mark fearon: are we righting one 200 word statement thing each or one as a group
Jerad Tinninq: as a group.
mark fearon: ok sweet.
me: tomorow
Jerad Tinninq: what time?
mark fearon: so just get it done 2moro??
130 was it?
Jerad Tinninq: I just remembered that tomorrow my class on the hill goes until 2. Can we say 2:30?
me: can I get back to you in 1 min
hold on
ok, I have to see someone in Karori at about 1
so I will try be back at 2.30
Jerad Tinninq: ok. Mark?
mark fearon: 230 is fine
i have no class
Jerad Tinninq: great. Thanks guys.
mark fearon: sweet we got our problem
Jerad Tinninq: c u 2moro....
Tuesday, August 5, 2008
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